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  1. @Sachin,

    I repeat my questions for the sake of your MATURITY and scientific explanations –

    Let us check out the depth of your believability in few of war descriptions from the same epic –
    “And Pritha’s son also, on his part, drawing that foremost of weapons, the Gandiva, celebrated over the world, SHOT INNUMERABLE IRON-ARROWS, all capable of penetrating into the very core of the body. Thereupon Kripa, by means of WHETTED SHAFTS, CUT INTO HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF FRAGMENTS, THOSE BLOOD-DRINKING ARROWS OF PARTHA BEFORE THEY COULD COME UP.”

    What is believable in this? Iron arrows are cut down by which metal? Innumerable arrows being cut off in the air? So Arjun was firing arrows at snail’s pace?
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    “And covering the ENTIRE WELKIN with his shafts, that mighty warrior of immeasurable soul, the son of Pritha”
    Were these arrows gravity defying which stayed in the sky to cover ‘welkin’? how many such arrows can one fire at a given point of time to cover sky? 1000,,,1000000000,,,,,,,,,,,,,100000000000000000? Is that believable??
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    “Thereupon, as the gold-decked javelin came whizzing through the air with the flash of a meteor, Arjuna cut it off by means of ten arrows”
    This javelin stayed in air and waited for 10 arrows of Arjun to get cut off inspite of coming with flash of meteor…do you know the speed of a meteor? I accept it was travelling at a speed of just 1% that of meteor speed…..still can human reflexes achieve that? Really believable for your ENGLISH scientific mind

    Your answers should be prompt Mr. Mature since you have the monopoly over Science, MB and logical common-sense! explain them or else Virat war is bloody fake, impractical, supernatural and glorification…..

  2. The issue of Rajnikant example is not people flying in air but Rajni Sir defeating 100’s of goons, Mr. Mature! Smarty clarified the strength angle in his example.

    Now give me your answer – Rajnikant’s antics are okay with you but Superman’s not??

  3. @ Smarty,

    Your statement-“where as if Rajinikant beats 100 goons alone in a short time it is not supernatural becs it not breaching the laws of nature.”

    My ans- Wrong example to compare it with Viraat war….. Have you seen a Rajnikant vs 100 goon fight Or a Salman vs 100 man fight in Jay-Ho movie ? In these movie fight scenes, all the goons start flying in air as soon as the hero kicks them with a simple punch….!! Isnt it against the laws of Physics ????? Indeed it is …… Hence these movies fights are supernatural……

    The correct example to compare Viraat war should be a military war, where one champion soldier takes his machine gun & starts killing thousands of enemy soldiers/generals with best accuracy & a master war plan….. what is supernatural in it ????

    Your statement-“if some one shoots 1000 arrows in one go without any interval is not supernatural becs there is nothing which has gone against the law of nature , since there is no magics, illusion involved in it.”

    My ans- Very funny…. Just because the author glorified a warrior by replcing his ability to fire multiple arrows in a short time into 1000’s of arrows in one go, it doesnt make the whole war a supernatural….. By this logic, whole story of Mb will be supernatural, because over-glorifications are everywhere in this poetic MB…..

    1. sachin, in Rajinikanth movies people don’t grow wings to fly. they are air borne becs of that person strength. what is supernatural in it?

      yes that champion warrior turns beggar and a cheater in the most crucial fight of his life time.

      and there is nothing supernatural in it. does begging and cheating amounts to supernatural .

      one soldier managing to get a machine gun some 4000- 5000 year ago is all a routine affair for you.

      to what extent will you stoop next ?

  4. @Sachin,

    Your statement – “The maturity of Your understanding is rapidly falling to the level of other bloggers like Sanjay, who had asked me to show any example where the Viraat war event was repeated in its “EXACT MANNER”, i.e. one warrior fighting in chariot with bows/arrows & celestial weapons & then defeating whole army which was also fighting in chariot with bows/arrows & celestial weapons, in in the end making everyone unconcious…..???”

    My response – I will help your maturity in unraveling your own hallucination. Please do not bother yourself by giving EXACT but have the guts to give something similar at least where a single bowman standing in full public view is fighting 1000’s of soldiers and 5-6 generals without getting injured. Oh yes! He may or may not have the liberty to have one inexperienced charioteer for company – choice is yours…..Hopefully your MATURE thoughts will not come up with example where somebody is fighting with modern weapons or else you will make mockery of yourself since you claim to be MATURE. I will wait for your MATURE example!
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    Your statement – “The fact is that there is nothing supernatural in Viraat war description, and it does not go against any laws of nature or science”

    My response – I refute Virat war for its 1 against 1000’s scenario and not for being supernatural. Since you claim there is nothing supernatural (according to your understanding) in this war, let me remind you that just three days back…just three days back I repeat, I gave just 3 quotes from the same war. Please share how your science explains such things. As a MATURE person your reply was expected BUT as usual you went absconding. If your science cannot explain them then we will be forced to either accept them as SUPERNATURAL or strike them off as INTERPOLATION. I will wait for your answer and then will supply you with next lot of such description from the same war. They are in abundance…..So prepare your MATURE & SCIENTIFIC replies!!
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    Sachin, do you accept what Smarty summarized today? Rajnikant’s antics are okay with you but Superman’s not!! I will wait for this answer also from a MATURE person like you….
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    Your claim – “The dean of my University is the God himself & I follow the Laws of nature made by god himself, hence no one can contradict me or my idol-God because he is the supreme”

    My response – You are no one to decide whether to follow laws of nature or not Mr. Sachin. You are just a negligible entity at their mercy. You are doing no obligation to God by following his laws since you neither know him nor understands him nor do you know ALL his laws. What do you think God will take your permission before tweaking or compromising his own laws? If he decides and wants to change them as per his convenience he will do that without giving shit for your science or your ENGLISH thoughts!!
    So do not have wrong impression of laws of nature or the creator of those laws. When he will decide to change his laws your science will follow his dictates and will be even forced to dismiss its own earlier findings….Pehle samjho ki kaun si baat kaise kahani hai and kaise samjhni hai before you start forming MATURE opinions…baat karte hain!!

  5. A rambo movie or any south Indian movie or any hindi masala movie cannot fall in the category of super naturalism until the loop-holes that sachin has laid down is exploited carefully

    one’s story can pass the test provided you do not include any factors such as curse, boons, vanishing etc etc even if one show a Chamradar dubala patla hurls big show in the air.

  6. sanjay and niraj bhai ,

    Now you two understand what sachin is trying to say all this time. he is trying to unravel the intricacies of MB.

    all this time he is trying to say that any acts or activities which goes against the law of nature is supernatural and hence it must be handiwork of the latter poets who corrupted the whole MB.

    to elaborate it warriors flying high up in air and shooting arrows or any weapons from there are supernatural. likewise curses , boons which implications cannot be established with real confidence are all supernatural events .

    becs there is nothing to prove those.

    where as event like Virat war where none of those occurred is supernatural . there is nothing against the law of nature.

    so if in incredible hulk , hulk jumps 100 meter up in sky like Ghatokacha it is supernatural , or anything like Lord of rings kind of Scenario is not acceptable as it goes against the law of nature.

    where as if Rajinikant beats 100 goons alone in a short time it is not supernatural becs it not breaching the laws of nature.

    if some one shoots 1000 arrows in one go without any interval is not supernatural becs there is nothing which has gone against the law of nature , since there is no magics, illusion involved in it.

    to make it simple, the acts of Rajinikant is acceptable but that of superman is fictional.

    we have understand there has to be something like illusions, person becoming invisible, curses , boons than only it can be termed as supernatural.

    but in the absence of those the acts are natural, even if the king of the opposition challenges Yudi to first defeat them and then ask for their rights.

    even if duryo whose army was badly humiliated by a single enemy could gather the courage and belief of winning the war .

  7. @ Niraj,

    Your statement-“Your paramvir chakra example has been punctured so badly that it has become a chedi singh itne ched ho gaye —-. So prove that arjuna had nuclear weapons with him. I wil accept he did a nuclear bombing.”

    My ans- Lo kar lo baat…. Now, you will ask me to prove that Arjun was having a fighter plane & a technologically advanced helmet etc ??? …. In the haste of proving Viraat war supernatural, you are behaving like a crying child who got his candy snached by a grown man (Arjun) & now that child is trying to prove that the man (Arjun) was a supernatural monster…..

    The maturity of Your understanding is rapidly falling to the level of other bloggers like Sanjay, who had asked me to show any example where the Viraat war event was repeated in its “EXACT MANNER”, i.e. one warrior fighting in chariot with bows/arrows & celestial weapons & then defeating whole army which was also fighting in chariot with bows/arrows & celestial weapons, in in the end making everyone unconcious…..???

    The fact is that there is nothing supernatural in Viraat war description, and it does not go against any laws of nature or science….. And just because this incidence is not repeated in its “exact manner”, it doesnt mean that it is supernatural …. E.g. Usan bolt ran a world record of 9.6 seconds in 100 meter race, & this feat is not been achieved by any other person on our planet, so does it mean that this event is supernatural ???? Funny logic….. Same is the case with all the other world record holders in different sports…. Are they all supernatural ????? Certainly not…. Because their occurance may be unique in nature but their occurance is not against the laws of nature or science….. Similary Viraat war is one such unique event which has nothing supernatural in its description….. So i dont need to give you any repeat example of such event to prove its practility, because there is nothing supernatural in it…. I rest my case your honour….!!

    Your statement-“I also have my side my idol God who himself has layed down the laws of human psychology. Personal bias lies and deceit are always possible. If Karna tells ved vyasa please mind your own business yudhi and pandavas say pranipaat munivar. Then virata yudha is not karna vs arjuna its mind your own business vs pranipat munivar and pranipat munivar is bound to prevail. And besides a person who is a liar on one issue his family doctor has not exactly prevented him to lie on other issues supernatural or not supernatural eg sant asaram.”

    My ans- Ha..ha..ha… Niraj is claiming his own Psychology as that of God’s…… I have just one thing to say to you here: Prove from KMG that Vyas was biased towards Pandavas or DONT TALK IN AIR…..

    And if you think that Vyas was biased towards Pandavas, then you should totally forget that a war called MB ever happened, because it is this “biased” Vyas who introduced you to a character called as “Karna”….. Hence character Karna is Vyas’s creation(because apart from Vyas, we never had anyone else on this planet who could testify the existence of a man called Karna), hence you cannot love or admire a “baised” author’s creation to whom you dont believe……

    Your statement-“Rani Lakshmibais valour was not written by her when she came back from the grave. Unbiased Hugh Rose the winner of the battle ( Since Sachin is a regular chate of winners so I quote Hugh Rose ) complemented her hence I salute her. So Sachin stop behaving like a poor joker and understand some basic facts.”

    My ans- Arey bhai, khud hi question poonchate ho aur khud hi answer dete ho…… Just like Lakshmibai is praised by the winner Hugh Rose, similary, Karna has been praised by the winners (biased Vyas & Pandavas) in many parts of their biased MB… Karna has been projected as if he was the invincible warrior by Vyas….. So your own theory is refuting you here Niraj….. who is the joker now ??

    And the winner-Hugh Rose praised Lakshmibai only for her courage which she shown in the battle but Hugh Rose did not write in history books that he singlehandedly defeated the whole army of Lakshmibai…..

    And all of your Paramveer chakra winner exaples of Lance Naik Karam Sing, Lance Naik Albert Ekka etc is useless in proving your point because your point has already been punctured above…. Hence your punctured cycle will not take to anywhere…..

    By the way niraj, i had thought that your are a God believer & god follower, so you should respect the God’s laws of nature & should follow them only, BUT i was wrong….. You are just a “Human” believer who believes blindly in the words of humans only(Vyas, Valmiki, Mahadavacharya, Pandits, Babas, spiritual gurus etc) & follows them blindly ignoring all the laws of God & instead questioning the authenticity of the laws of God….. Very sad to see this…. A so called “God follower” has actually converted himself into a “God-opposer”…. I believe this is called as taking “Panga” with God…. Think deeply….. Whether you want to follow god or some fake humans….?? I hope other bloggers are listening as well…..

  8. Approach of AN ENGLISH mind which is trying to understand OUR epic called ‘Mahabharata’ –

    o The whole world is influenced by MB of TV serials so ENGLISH MIND recommends everybody to read original MB/KMG or else don’t talk in air (setting rules of the game)
    o ENGLISH MIND reads MB and declares that this is interpolation, that is glorification and such & such is supernatural (authenticity of MB is ripped apart by recommender himself – 1st twist in rules of the game)
    o Other obliging readers of MB/KMG find silly mistakes in sequence of events, grammar, facts & figures but these are of no consequence to ENGLISH MIND and they are still asked to stick to MB/KMG (Readers are not expected to have intelligence which is the monopoly of ENGLISH MIND – 2nd twist in rules of the game)
    o But all interpolations, glorifications & supernaturals are not applicable to just one character called Arjun because whatever is favouring this character is highly moral, practical and scientific but for other characters it is highly immoral, impractical and supernatural (3rd twist in rules of the game)
    o If ENGLISH MIND fantasies/opines without any basis then it should be considered as encyclopedia of political and warfare knowledge of 5,000 years ago era. If others do the same then PROVE IT FROM KMG (4th twist in rules of the game)
    o Ornamental language is valid in case of Arjun but not for other characters (5th twist in rules of the game)
    o Saving Draupadi’s disrobing is supernatural but warriors firing and getting PIERCED with 1000 of arrows without dying is not supernatural. Existence of Kavach-Kundal is supernatural but Arjun covering sunshine by numerous gravity-defying arrows (darkness) is not supernatural. (6th twist in rules of the game)
    o ENGLISH MIND claims to know God and its various laws but neither understands difference between blind faith, supernaturality and spirituality nor believes in later two (contradictory self-claim) (7th twist in rules of the game)
    o ENGLISH MIND does not accept what is not proved by scientists but believes in ‘Karmic law’ (strange ENGLISHNESS) (8th twist in rules of the game)
    o ENGLISH MIND is the only MATURE person in this blog who believes and preaches that if something cannot be explained by science then it does not exist including events of MB written by Ved Vyas which ENGLISH MIND is recommending for reading to the world. (9th twist in rules of the game)
    o Now comes the most interesting twist in rules of the game – Discard even Ved Vyas if he talks UNENGLISH so what if he is the original author of authentic MB. It is the fault of Ved Vyas since he did not write what Newton, Einstein and other scientists found some 5,000 years later. So what if such findings already existed since time immemorial even before the birth and after the death of these scientists?

    Does any of INDIAN MINDS amongst us know how seriously this ENGLISH MIND needs to be taken? Or should such mind be taken seriously at all or not??

  9. Another paramvir chakra winner. Lance naik albert ekka.
    Lance Naik Albert Ekka was in the left forward company of a battalion of the Brigade of Guards during their attack on the ememy defenses at Gangasagar on the Eastern front.. Towards the northern end of the objective one enemy medium machine-gun (MMG) opened up from the second storey of a well-fortified building inflicting heavy casualties and holding up the attack. Once again this gallant soldier, without a thought for his personal safety, despite his serious injury and the heavy volume of enemy fire, crawled forward till he reached the building and lobbed a grenade into the bunker killing one enemy soldier and injuring the other. The MMG however continued to fire.
    BELOW ALBERT EKKA DOES A VIRAT YUDDHA ENTERS ENEMY LINES ALONE.
    With outstanding courage and determination Lance Naik Albert Ekka scaled a side wall and entering the bunker, bayoneted the enemy soldier who was still firing and thus silenced the machine-gun, saving further casualties to his company and ensuring the success of the attack. In this process however, he received serious injuries and succumbed to them after the capture of the objectiveLance Naik Karam Singh who did not die I will quote again” Lance Naik Karam Singh, who was severely wounded by then, with a few men, hurled himself in a counter-attack and evicted the enemy after a close quarter encounter which accounted for many enemy dead, having been dispatched by the bayonet. ( HERE LANCE NAIK KARAM SINGH WAS WITH A FEW MEN NOT ALONE LIKE ALBERT EKKA. HENCE HE SURVIVED EKKA DIDN’T )

  10. Sachins infatuation with paramvir chakra let me quote – . Lance Naik Karam Sing was one who did get paramvir chakra and did not die
    LANCE NAIR KARAM SINGH
    The enemy commenced its attack with heavy shelling of guns and mortars.
    Immediately, Lance Naik Karam Singh, who was severely wounded by then, with a few men, hurled himself in a counter-attack and evicted the enemy after a close quarter encounter which accounted for many enemy dead, having been dispatched by the bayonet.
    My observation – Karam singh was with men NOT open attack and alone like arjuna virata yuddha.
    Communication trenches caved in. Bravely, Lance Naik karam Singh went from bunker to bunker, giving succor to the wounded and urging the men to fight.
    HERE ALSO MANY MEN WERE WITH LANCE NAIK KARAM SINGH HE WAS IN TRENCHES ALSO AT SOME STAGE.
    The enemy launched eight separate attacks that day. In one such attack, the enemy managed to obtain a foothold in the platoon locality. Immediately, Lance Naik Karam Singh, who was severely wounded by then, with a few men, hurled himself in a counter-attack and evicted the enemy after a close quarter encounter which accounted for many enemy dead, having been dispatched by the bayonet.
    Lance Naik Karam Singh proved himself to be a dauntless leader of men in crisis. Nothing could subdue him and no amount of fire or hardship could break his spirit.[3]

  11. sachins dialogues
    Dialogue number one. I have my side my idol-God who himself has layed down the laws of nature my ans I also have my side my idol God who himself has layed down the laws of human psychology. Personal bias lies and deceit are always possible. If Karna tells ved vyasa please mind your own business yudhi and pandavas say pranipaat munivar. Then virata yudha is not karna vs arjuna its mind your own business vs pranipat munivar and pranipat munivar is bound to prevail. And besides a person who is a liar on one issue his family doctor has not exactly prevented him to lie on other issues supernatural or not supernatural eg sant asaram.Second dialogue of SachinBut we all read the recent histories in our textbooks as being facts(even though they were written by winners), hence your illogical excuse is punctured here….. And what do you think that the loser of the battle will get up from his grave to write the history ?????My ans. Rani Lakshmibais valour was not written by her when she came back from the grave. Unbiased Hugh Rose the winner of the battle ( Since Sachin is a regular chate of winners so I quote Hugh Rose ) complemented her hence I salute her. So Sachin stop behaving like a poor joker and understand some basic facts.

  12. Your paramvir chakra example has been punctured so badly that it has become a chedi singh itne ched ho gaye —-. So prove that arjuna had nuclear weapons with him. I wil accept he did a nuclear bombing. Sant asaram talks supernatural don’t believe him but if he talks some thing that is possible then he is the incarnation of truth and honesty. Try telling this to some inmate of the famous agra mental asylum not in this blog.

  13. @ Niraj,

    Your statement-“If you dont belive the monkey vyasa and in supernatural then virat yudha also gets punctured as its impossible to defeat many warriors without gurella warfare”

    My ans- Niraj, you havent been able to prove anything supernatural in Viraat war description….. Moreover, you are acting ignorant even though many examples of one man producing significant impact in a war, have been give to you (Nucleur bombing of Japan, Alive Paramveer chakra award winners etc)…… So your ignorant approach will not prove any point of yours here….. Hence stop behaving like a sour loser here…..

    Your statement-“in any case since vyasa is a monkey according to you then you also have no right to beleive his monkey business.”

    My ans- Non-contextual claim…. I was talking about the Supernatural events wrote by Vyas & not his practical story of MB…. Hence i have all the right to believe in the practical part of MB & have all the right to refute the Supernatural part of MB because i have my side my idol-God who himself has layed down the laws of nature against which no writer like Vyas go….

  14. Sachin replies to a simple question,

    – Cheap excuse…. Fleeing or retreating or backing away, all implies defeat, so dont give cheap excuses…..

    = see with what conviction he said these words, as if he was the writer of MB.

    But he couldn’t answer it with any conviction that if the arrows which entered the grounds can be the imagination or exaggerate words of the poet why the simple word fleeing can’t be like that.

    But to sachin it can be never be becs he has the secret lenses of scanning truth from fiction .

    now this are the words that are spoken by sachin to niraj,

    Buddy, if you thinks that Mb was written by Pandavas or by Vyas under Pandavas’ influence & if you have so much problem with it then you should forget about Mb at all & should never debate about stories like Mb, Ramayan & even recent history of Akbar, Shivaji etc because all stories are written by the winner only…

    reply= now read this guy, now he is behaving that he is the sole custodian of original Mahabharat.

    In his opinion, the MB which is before us, is not the original MB but the tampered version of the MB. The original MB was tampered later by many intruders.

    they intruded but instead of looting anything original from the book they kept and kept on bringing in so much Hindi movie emotions to the MB. They didn’t stop it right there but went on to add glorification of many characters.

    They introduced supernatural stories to the original Book, like thousands of arrows being shot at one go, Man becoming unconscious but instantly recovering without any medical attention.

    And so on

    Sachin is also going ahead with the belief that the intruders who ripped apart the original MB did not messed up with core story. They only buff up the MB but they let the core story remained the same.

    What Noble kind of intruders were they? Exemplary indeed.

    Now see with so much faith Sachin gave clean sheet to Ved Vyas , as if Ved Vyas is coming regularly in the dreams of sachin and is saying help and remove these interpolation which are polluting the purity of my book. I have chosen you Sachin for this noble act. Do this and clean up the MB. Clear out all those spicy masalas which are causing the mind of the readers go hazy and they all are lost in these supernatural clouds which is ever spreading.

    BUT CAN WE GIVE CLEAN SHEET TO VED VYAS IF THERE WAS AT ALL ANY INTERPOLATION BY ANYONE.
    CAN WE BE SO SURE THAT AND AGREE THAT THE INTRUDERS DIDN’T TINKER WITH THE CORE STORYLINE.
    IF THERE WAS INDEED SUCH INTERPOLATION.

  15. @ Smarty,

    Your statement-“MB is a fictional book if you apply scientific rules . VED VYAS didn’t write the book to pass scientific litmus test.”

    My ans- Pure rubbish claim….. MB is the most practical book of all of the Mythological books….. The sequence of events are so valid & practical that you can easily make out where the suprnatural event are unneccerily inserted into it…..

    Your statement-“THE VERY SCIENCE which is negative about the existence of GOD , cannot be taken into consideration in judging the MB.”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha….ha… Only a science ignorant person like you will talk such rubbish….. Even science says that some “Superpower”(God) has created this universe… & this claim is easily proved by the fact that the universe itself exists, so someone must have made it….

    Your statement-“Since MB firmly establishes the existence of GOD.”

    My ans- The interpolations in MB only converts simple human beings into God……

    Your statement-“i can provide a lot of events which are the central and integral part of MB but will never pass the test of 20th century science.”

    My ans- Prove it if you can….

    Your statement-“MB without supernatural events is like zero.”

    My ans- MB without supernatural events is the oldest piece of history which mankind has ever remembered & if everone accepts MB without supernatural events, then India can easily claim to whole world that India has the oldest civilisation & the first one to develope technologies & then the whole world will salute India for its rich history…… Only the supernatural events makes the MB story as invalid piece of history in front of whol world…..

    Your statement-“if piercing the body is ornamental than fleeing can be easily so”

    My ans- Cheap excuse…. Fleeing or retreating or backing away, all implies defeat, so dont give cheap excuses…..

  16. @ Niraj,

    It seems that the 8 monkeys example was too heavy for you to refute or get away with, that is why you took some 10 to 12 days to come out with a counter answer ( or should i say an EXCUSE) to defend your supernaturality…..

    The 8 monkeys example clearly punctures your supernatural theories & blind beliefs…..

    Your statement-“Sachin your 8 monkey experiment is attributed to psychology. Which is animal level and can be applicable to humans as well.”

    My ans- So you accept that 8 monkey experiment applies to humans as well…. Great…

    Your statement-“But historical events are different. History likes winners”

    My ans- Now where does this come from ????? I was talking about supernatrual events & you came out with a non-contextual point of “History likes winners” ????

    Fact is that all the supernatural theories came from our mythological books written by Vyas, Valmiki, Mahadavacharya etc( i.e. original 8 Monkeys)…. Later these theories were further followed by later day’s Pandits, Babas, spiritual gurus etc (newer 8 monkeys)….. & now in present time, these supernatural theories are followed by people like you (newest 8 monkeys)….. This is called as blind belief & you proved yourself as a blind believer…..

    Atleast i am not one of those monkeys, because i do not believe anything blindly without investigating about it…..

    Your statement-“Jodha Akbar a glorious nonsense which is high in drama nothing supernatural or fear factor just a liking ga ga over akbars fake greatness. Similar to virat yudha.”

    My ans- Buddy, if you thinks that Mb was written by Pandavas or by Vyas under Pandavas’ influence & if you have so much problem with it then you should forget about Mb at all & should never debate about stories like Mb, Ramayan & even recent history of Akbar, Shivaji etc because all stories are written by the winner only…..

    But we all read the recent histories in our textbooks as being facts(even though they were written by winners), hence your illogical excuse is punctured here….. And what do you think that the loser of the battle will get up from his grave to write the history ?????

    Your statement-” Shoaib Akhtar wrote controversially yours spewed venom against Rahul Dravid Sachin Tendulkar. Now both of them have powerful moments against him. In interview shoaib wants to glorify Pakistan. Now what can he do he creates a fake scene claiming that tendulkars legs were shaking with fear in the faislabad test later on verified by another Pakistani player Shahid Afridi just like virat yudha.”

    My ans- Already puntured above….. Your baseless excuses wont change the facts of MB including Viraat yudh…. Sorry Niraj, your favourite Kuru warriors indeed got their butts kicked by arjun single-handedly at Viraat…..

    1. no sachin i dont think you have punctured any of my example. Your dialogue is 2 edged. If you dont belive the monkey vyasa and in supernatural then virat yudha also gets punctured as its impossible to defeat many warriors without gurella warfare and in any case since vyasa is a monkey according to you then you also have no right to beleive his monkey business. so the virat yudha remains a mungerilal dream sequence.

  17. hey guys lets write the MB which meets scientific reasoning’s.

    my first input,

    All pandavas were cubit length taller than other warrior which includes Kauravas also.

    Karna was 8 cubit length tall.

    so a well muscular , heavy built of that height would weigh around 200- 300 kgs.

    while normal soldiers weigh around 80-90 approx.

    next Bhima who was the strongest person , who weigh the highest.

    but he cannot be having strength of 10,000 elephants simply becs he was being coiled around by a boa and bhimsen was unable to get out of that strong hold and was to be rescued by other pandavas.

  18. 8 monkeys have to be hammered or tortured into something history comes down to jo jeeta vohi sikander. Akbar did manage to do some conquering by hook or by crook without any beating or any such method aine akbari and jodha akbar like nonsenses were created a la virata yudha style.

  19. Sachin your 8 monkey experiment is attributed to psychology. Which is animal level and can be applicable to humans as well. But historical events are different. History likes winners hence we see Jodha Akbar a glorious nonsense which is high in drama nothing supernatural or fear factor just a liking ga ga over akbars fake greatness. Similar to virat yudha. I will give an example of cricket. Shoaib Akhtar wrote controversially yours spewed venom against Rahul Dravid Sachin Tendulkar. Now both of them have powerful moments against him. In interview shoaib wants to glorify Pakistan. Now what can he do he creates a fake scene claiming that tendulkars legs were shaking with fear in the faislabad test later on verified by another Pakistani player Shahid Afridi just like virat yudha.

  20. @ Smarty,

    Your statement-“When did sachin defeat me? His imagination is expanding every day.”

    My ans- Lo kar lo baat….. The world is the witness that you were answerless to my questions on many topics like Bhishma killing, Rajsuya Yagya, Bhima vs Karna 14th day etc….. Your chickening out approach was clearly visible in all of those arguements…..

    Your statement-“sachin your fake theory has got no acceptability and applicability becs you are a fake degree holder of an unauthorised university . And the dean of the University is our beloved SUPPANDI who you love to idolise”

    My ans- Smarty…. The dean of my University is the God himself & I follow the Laws of nature made by god himself, hence no one can contradict me or my idol-God because he is the supreme…..

    You are one of those blind faith believer & ignorant person who does not idolises God or his Laws of nature but you idolises humans who cleverly fooled you by showing the fake existence of God on earth(in the form of Krishna/Ram etc) & their supernatural powers……

    Now tell me who is the stupid here ?? Me or you ???

    Your statement-“I asked a simple question to everyone, but no one which includes me also can explain why every Atiarathas were immune to normal arrows, maces , spears etc. We can’t explain the mysterious survival of those atirathis. It is clearly mentioned that those arrows entered ground after piercing through their body.

    My ans- Well… To understand this ornamental language, one need to have some logical brain inside his head, but i am afraid you dont have any, so you can keep wondering like a 4 yr old kid in his fairy world…..

    Your statement-“The same chariot which sank deep into earth, which couldn’t be pull out by karna after putting in all his efforts, was dragged easily by shalya after Karna’s death. Ved vyas here tries to highlight the curse factor of karna, the curse which made the chariot sink and becs of that curse the chariot was stuck there. But as soon as karna died the curse lost its affect, and the chariot which never actually sunk in reality was freed from the stubborn strong hold of the curse.

    My ans- Wow… You cracked the case here Smarty…. This clearly shows that Karna was pretending to take out his wheels, when he saw his death in front of him…. Otherwise, shalya simply took out the same car wheel with the help of his chariot horses only…… what a coward Karna was …..!!

    Your statement-“Why does MB appeals to us becs it is full of supernatural events, performances and characters.”

    My ans- Nope…. Because MB is actually an interesting story even without all the supernatural events….

    1. as said by me sachin your imagination is expanding day by day .

      MB is a fictional book if you apply scientific rules . VED VYAS didn’t write the book to pass scientific litmus test , THE VERY SCIENCE which is negative about the existence of GOD , cannot be taken into consideration in judging the MB.

      Since MB firmly establishes the existence of GOD.

      i can provide a lot of events which are the central and integral part of MB but will never pass the test of 20th century science.

      MB without supernatural events is like zero.

      if piercing the body is ornamental than fleeing can be easily so , as asked by SANJAY.

  21. Dear Rock,

    Your statement-“1)did arjun attack /try to attack bhills?”

    My ans- Yes he did….

    Your statement-“2)u finally tell me what is the definition of decoity attack?”

    My ans- Read it from your std 2nd textbook…. If you dont know the basics then you are not authorised to participate in this high class arguement…..

    Your statement-“3)if a commando is present in a bank being robbed, what is his duty?”

    My ans- To save the bank money from robbers…. But still it does not show that the commander got defeated here, because the term defeat cannot be applied to this dacoity attack….

    Your statement-“2)no they didn’t. They did attack him -“Though thus addressed by that hero, they disregarded his words and though repeatedly dissuaded, they fell upon Arjuna””

    My ans- So you agree that arjun was not injured in Bhills attack…. So how can you expect a

    Your statement-“Arjun became afraid and sought the excuse “work of destiny””

    My ans- Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Invalid, Childish & Hawa-Mahal claim… Hence i dont need to answer it….

    Your statement-“3)wel arjun didnt try to rescue the ladies, so in a way yes arjun ran away”

    My ans- Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Pure montesary claim…..
    Firstly this is a HAWA-MAHAL claim, because Arjun indeed tried to save ladies….BUT just because Arjun could not save all of the ladies, so Rocky’s childish understanding says that he ran away… ????? Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Now i cant control my laugh….Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. This is immaturity at its best… Ha..ha…ha…ha….

    Your statement-“4)it was the Bhills mercy that they didn’t capture Arjun himself”

    My ans- Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. I still cant control my laugh…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Ha..ha…ha…ha….

    Your statement-“The Rock says – the two situations are entirely different. The protection of a warrior is the responsibility foremost for the concerted warrior not his Cic”

    My ans- Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Isey kehte hai- Hippocracy at its best…… Bhishma/Drona/Karna karein to Raasleela, Arjun karein to character dheela ???? Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Grow up Rocky…..

    Your statement-“The Rock says – Hmmm. Bhim hearing the praise of karna experienced sudden sense of danger? Are u wanting to say this?”

    My ans- Worthless & childish arguement… I already told you that war results carry more weightage than some ornamental description of someone’s status…. And the war result says that Bhima was way ahead of Karna in terms of warrior capabilities….. Should i show you the passages where Karna hide inside his car like a mouse due to fear of Bhima on 14th day, so by this logic Karna was never capable enough to face Bhima…..

    Your statement-“The Rock says – jarasandh offered the town, duryodhan said agreeable to my wishes, Agreeable to his wishes. His wish was very important

    My ans- It still does not prove that Karna took permission before accepting town from Jarasandh……

    Your statement-“Your funny statement-“2)karna was gifted anga desh. So anyone who ranks high in Hastinapur mahal (not your hawa mahal)(like duryodhan dhritrashtra) can bully him to issue decisions which they like” My ans- Ha..ha…ha…ha…. HAWA-MAHAL claim from a childish tiny brain which is in a state of confusion….. The Rock says – simply shouting from your hawa mahal wont do. U need to give proper proofs

    My ans- Lo kar lo baat….. Its you who is claiming that “anyone who ranks high in Hastinapur mahal(like duryodhan dhritrashtra) can bully Karna to issue decisions which they like”…. So why should i bother to prove the opposite….. This is the same funny old technique of yours of claiming aything rubbish & then asking me to prove the opposite…… Grow up Rocky…..

    Your statement-“By the way can u tell me why wasn’t this particular defeat ever mentioned again?”

    My ans- You ask this question to Vyas & not me….. Just because some achievement of a warrior is not mentioned twice, that doesnt mean that this achievement is fake…..

    Your statement-“Y did yudi still consider karna as gr8est warrior in Vana parva?”

    My ans- Ha..ha…ha…ha…. Funny again….. Even Krishna considered shalya as the best warrior on 18th day, so does it actually make Shalya the greatest warrior ???? As i said previously, statements/opinions have no importance in comparision to war results……

    Your statement-“Exactly my point. He was running away nvr to show face again”

    My ans- HAWA-MAHAL claim…… Prove that Bhima did not show his face to Karna after he was chariotless on 14th day…..

    Your statement-“The Rock -didnt u c those warriors died with a single arrow. How much time did bhim took to fire a single arrow”

    My ans- This is just a childish EXCUSE….. This still does not refute the fact that Kaurva brother came to help Karna against Bhima & during this time when Bhima was busy, Karna changed his car…..

  22. MB is not ghulam to somebody’s view whether scientific or else. what ever is written we cannot change. Can it be explained by today’s science or otherwise is also not in our hands….it is something which is like “take it or leave it”.

    Arrows piercing human body’s and not just one two or three but hundreds and thousands collectively during entire war. There is no rest in between for the wounds to heal….. everyday is war happening. how can all these things be mere fantasy? I insist my friends explore deeper into these things if you are serious about reading and discussing MB.

  23. In KMG’ MB it is clearly mentioned that how dedicated was arjuna. how he was totally devoted in aiming targets at the night.

    the KMG MB says other than Arjuna and Ghatokacha there was no one who could stand before karna in a night fight.

    Ghatokacha was a cannibal who hunts in the dark , his part can be understood, but how can Karna acquire such skills without devoting himself to the task.