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  1. Karna defeated Bhima 10 times in the Kurekshetra, Bhima defeated Karna 6 times thoughout Mahabharata, 8:0 claim of Sachin goes out of the war, the real count is Karna vs Bhima : 10:6 without Karna using any celestial weapons.

  2. @ Niraj,

    Your statement-”Like arjuna bhima and drishtadyumna were also gughuprasads. When arjuna only cut a sorry figure what makes you think that these 2 will come up with something.”

    My ans- If Bhima was a gughuprasad, then this gughuprasa(Bhima) thrashed Karna some 7 to 8 times throught MB & made him run away with his tail between his legs, including the Rajsuya Yagya, when Karna had no barrier of Kunti’s promise….. So this proves that Karna was the biggest GHUGGUPRASAD of MB because he got thrashed by even Tom,Dick & Harry’s like Gandhravas, Drupad etc…..

    Karna was a such a high level GHUGGUPRASAD that he hide inside his tent for first 10 days of MB war because of fear of Pandavas……

    Karna was a such a GHUGGUPRASAD that he hide inside his Car when Bhima jumped on to his car to grab him to churn him & Bhima only spared his life because of Arjun’s promise… Karna should thank Arjun for this…..

    Karna was a such a GHUGGUPRASAD that even Satyaki spared his life because of Arjun’s promise… Karna should thank Arjun again for this…..

    Karna was a such a GHUGGUPRASAD that he ran away from Gandharva war/Gurudakshina war with his tail between his legs…

    Your statement-” Bhargava astra destroyed a lot first time and arjuna retreated.”

    My ans- Fake claim……

    Your statement-”Karna without divine weapons was mopping the floor with bhima. Expecting bhima to stand up to karna with divine weapons is nothing more than a mungeri lal dream sequence.”

    My ans- For the record, Bhima vs Karna = 8 : 0 wins……. Means Bhima thrashed Karna 8 times without using any celestial weapons……

  3. @ Smarty,

    Your statement-”i ask a simple question to sachin ,prove that karna fled away from drupada. instead of proving he started again his idiot talk show.”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha….ha….ha….. The IDIOT TALK SHOW of Smarty continues….. Now Smarty wants to prove that Kauravas lost to drupad but Karna won the war against Drupad….. Ha…ha…ha….ha….ha…..

    Or Smarty wants to prove that Karna did not run away from Drupad but he only ran behind a tree to attend Nature’s call(as usual because of his diabetes problem) & in the mean time Pandavas came & conquered Drupad….. Poor Karna… Nobody even let him attend his Nature’s call peacefully….. Ha…ha…ha….ha….ha…..

    Smarty, your logics have gone from bad to worse…. You are behaving as a sour loser… just like a small kid who started crying foul play as soon as someone snatched his candy from his hand…..

    Your statement-”now he is saying Karna was called Kauravas. ha ha ha ha. karna became one of the kauravas wow.”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha….ha….ha…..Ha…ha…ha….ha….ha….. So as per Smarty’s childish logic, since the MB was was fought between Kauravas & Pandavas, so the great Smarty concludes that MB war was fought between 100 Kauravas & 5 Pandavas, while rest of the kings/warriors from other kingdoms came as a spectators only (Viz. Karna, Bhagadatt, Satyaki, Kritverma, Shakuni, Drona, Drupad etc etc) because they were neither Kauravas or Pandavas …… Ha…ha…ha….ha….ha…..Ha…ha…ha….ha….ha….. Way to go Smarty…. Keep it up…. You will surely get the award of most immature blogger of this blog…..

    Your statement-”Vyasa also told us that Arjuna killed the Kauravas who were already killed by bhimsen. Vyasa told us that Shishupala came back to life to fight against karna. Ghandharva war is not acceptable since the dead warriors were brought back to life.”

    My ans- Can you show me the passages which shows that Arjuna killed the same Kaurava brothers who were already killed by bhimsen….. Because chances of Arjuna killing Kaurava brother accidently is possible & later the names of those Kuru brothers would have been added in the Pray-list of Bhima so as to save his Vow by the interpolators….

    And who told you that the Shishupala who fought in MB war was the same Shishupala who was killed by Krishna ????? There were many warriors with the same name fighting in MB war, e.g. Sahdev(son of Pandu) & Sahdev(son of Jarasandh) both were there in MB war, so does it make them same personalities ?????

    There is nothing supernatural in the description of Proper Gandharva war & since only in the end the supernatural event of dead gandharva warriors brought back to life, is added hence only this part should be considered as superantural & interpolation & not the whole war, otherwise by your immature logic whole MB war should be considered as a not-acceptable because many supernatural events took place throught the MB war…..

    And Buddy, of you have so much problem with Vyas/KMG then you should forget about the MB & stop discussing about MB in this blog because we know about MB only because of VYas…..

    Your statement-”i ask him to post where karna fired Bhargava astra at bhimsen, instead of doing that he posted some other part of MB.”

    My ans- Lo kar lo baat…. So Mr Smarty, can you give us your immature opinion about my question that – “Against which warrior Karna fired his Bhargavastra ???” Now dont dodge this question, otherwise it will prove that you have not read the MB & it will show that my claim was right…..

  4. Like arjuna bhima and drishtadyumna were also gughuprasads. When arjuna only cut a sorry figure what makes you think that these 2 will come up with something. Bhargava astra destroyed a lot first time and arjuna retreated. Karna without divine weapons was mopping the floor with bhima. Expecting bhima to stand up to karna with divine weapons is nothing more than a mungeri lal dream sequence.

  5. dhruv can you find me the post where i have shown that Arjuna killed kauravas.

    and make a section where we can post the erroneous text of KMGMB

  6. i ask a simple question to sachin ,prove that karna fled away from drupada.

    instead of proving he started again his idiot talk show.

    now he is saying Karna was called Kauravas. ha ha ha ha.

    karna became one of the kauravas wow.

    now to what level he will go down.

    next vyas told that him karna lost to Bhimsen during rajasuya yagna.

    Vyasa also told us that Arjuna killed the Kauravas who were already killed by bhimsen.

    Vyasa told us that Shishupala came back to life to fight against karna.

    Ghandharva war is not acceptable since the dead warriors were brought back to life.

    i ask him to post where karna fired Bhargava astra at bhimsen, instead of doing that he posted some other part of MB.

    simply becs he haven’t read the MB. all this time he was looking for glorification and interpolation.

    guys you read it for yourselves.

    “Then Duryodhana addressing Karna
    from affection, ‘Behold, O Karna, bow our army, exceedingly afflicted
    by the Pandavas, though thou art here, is flying away from battle !
    Knowing this, O thou of mighty arms, do that which is suited to the
    hour, O chastiser of foes ! Thousands of (our) warriors, routed by the
    Pandavas, are, O hero, calling after thee only, O best of men !’ Hearing
    these grav e words of Duryodhana, the son of Radha, as if smiling, said
    these words unto the ruler of the Madras, ‘Behold the prowess of my
    arms and the energy of my weapons, O ruler of men ! Today I will
    slay all the Panchalas and the Pandavas in battle ! Cause the steeds to
    proceed with my car, O tiger among men ! Without doubt, everything
    will be as I have said!’ Having said these words, the Suta’s son of
    great valour, that hero, taking up his ancient and foremost of bows
    called Vijaya, stringed it and rubbed the string repeatedly. Bidding the
    troops stay on the field after having assured them upon his truth and
    by an oath, the mighty Kama of immeasurable soul fixed on his bowstring
    the weapon known by the name of Bhargava.”

    this is the prove given by Sachin, now guys can you read the name of Bhima here.

    i am copy pasting my question again, do you have the guts to prove your claim. or you can simply laugh and laugh and laugh.

    sachin,

    did Karna fire Bhargavastra at Bhima and Dhristtadyumna?

    if yes then what did they do?

    fled away or stood there.

    if they fled away than why?

    reply with passages from KMG MB.

  7. @ Smarty,

    Your statement-”all post have been proven by us. your saying wont change anything.”

    My ans- Ha….Ha….ha…ha…. ALl of your claims have been refuted by KMG lines, so your repeated blabbering wont change the facts…..

    Your statement-”other arjuna supporter have run away from active debate, they are nowhere to be seen. becs they may support Arjuna, but they are not going bring themselves down to such level which makes them look like idiot.”

    My ans- Ha….Ha….ha…ha…. Offcourse Smarty, the other Arjun supporters might have left this blog because they cannot bring themselves down to your level of childish discussions which makes them look like idiot…… Kya baat kahi tumne….

    And by this logic, there were more Karna supporters who left this blog, then Arjun supporter, so does it make Arjuna great ?? Grow up…..

    Your statement-”you are the only one who is doing the IDIOT TALK SHOW. you can deny whole your life it wont change anything.”

    My ans- Since last few posts, it’s you who is doing his IDIOT TALK SHOW by discussing the irrelevant issues like how many blogger left this blog & what is happening in FB etc.., rather than discussing the actual MB… Who the Idiot is now ??

    Your statement-”now prove that karna lost to drupada.”

    My ans- Lo kar lo baat…. This is Smarty’s “IDIOT TALK SHOW” again….. It is clearly writtent that all Kauravas(means whole Kuru army) feld away…. So so you mean to say that Karna was still fighting there & was winning the battle & 100 Kauravas unnecessarily fled away even though Karna was winning the battle….?? Ha….Ha….ha…ha…. I cant discuss this “IDIOT TALK SHOW” anymore….

    One day you will claim that in Mb war, Kauravas lost the war, so it doesnt prove that Karna/Drona/Bhagadatt etc lost the MB war because their names are not mentioned in this statement….. CHildish argument….. IF this is the way you are going to prove your claims then god bless your understanding…. Now i know why the other Arjun supporters left this blog, because an Engineering Student wont waste his time in discussing with a CLass 2 student about a subject of Engineering…..

    Your statement-”ghandharva war is also supernatural since the warrior killed by arjuna became alive later.”

    My ans- Ha,..ha…ha…..ha…..

    Your statement-”two biggest mistake made by KMG , karna participation at Drupad and Bhimsen rajasuya.”

    My ans- Now Smarty is blaming KMG for translating VYas MB as it is…. Poor KMG…… SMarty, you should blame Vyas for writing the facts of MB in his books…. Ha..ha…ha…

    Your statement-”did Karna fire Bhargavastra at Bhima and Dhristtadyumna?”

    My ans- Yes, Karna fired Bhargavastra at a front where Bhima and Dhristadyumna were resisting Kauravas, but still Karna could not defeat or Kill Bhima…..

    Following KMG lines will prove this:

    Karna leaves Yudi to run towards Duryo to save him from Bhima…..

    KMG quotes:(Page 184, Karna Parva)
    “Hearing these words of Salya, O lord of Earth, and beholding Duryodhana overpowered by Bhima in that dreadful battle, the valiant 1 son of Radha, thus urged by the words of Salya and exceedingly desirous of rescuing the king, left Ajatasatru and the twin sons of Madri by Pandu, and rushed for rescuing thy son.”
    ——————

    When Karna reaches upto Duryo, Duryo tell Karna about the poor status of Kuru army on the battlefield, & then Karna fires his Bhargavastra at Bhima/Dristdyumna’s division :

    KMG quotes:(Page 186, Karna Parva)
    “Then Duryodhana addressing Karna
    from affection, ‘Behold, O Karna, bow our army, exceedingly afflicted
    by the Pandavas, though thou art here, is flying away from battle !
    Knowing this, O thou of mighty arms, do that which is suited to the
    hour, O chastiser of foes ! Thousands of (our) warriors, routed by the
    Pandavas, are, O hero, calling after thee only, O best of men !’ Hearing
    these grav e words of Duryodhana, the son of Radha, as if smiling, said
    these words unto the ruler of the Madras, ‘Behold the prowess of my
    arms and the energy of my weapons, O ruler of men ! Today I will
    slay all the Panchalas and the Pandavas in battle ! Cause the steeds to
    proceed with my car, O tiger among men ! Without doubt, everything
    will be as I have said!’ Having said these words, the Suta’s son of
    great valour, that hero, taking up his ancient and foremost of bows
    called Vijaya, stringed it and rubbed the string repeatedly. Bidding the
    troops stay on the field after having assured them upon his truth and
    by an oath, the mighty Kama of immeasurable soul fixed on his bowstring
    the weapon known by the name of Bhargava.”
    ———————————————–

    Satisfied Smarty ?? or do you have any other baseless claim to give….?? SO now dont blabber the about Karna not firing any celestial weapon at Bhima…..

  8. @ Niraj,

    Your statement-”warrior watching anothere warriors powerful weapon and running away from the battle is another thing.”

    My ans- HAWA-MAHAL claim…… Dont talk in air Niraj….. Prove that Arjun ran away from an active Battle with Karna & Prove that Arjun ran away because of fear of Bhargavastra……

    The only reason for which Arjun left the field was to check Yudi’s health & that too when Bhim refused to go…..

    Your statement-” I have told dhruv to post karna vs bhima battles and karna owning bhima will autmatically be proven as far the sanskrit scholar was concerned that was in reply to smarboy because even if bhima also tells sachin that no sachin I had not conquered karna at rajsuya yagna still sachin will catch bhimas collar and start arguing with him.”

    My ans- Ha..ha…ha… Now Dhruv will become the judge of karna vs bhima battles ?? Dhruv is such a modest Administrator of this blog that he himself openly admitted many times that he himself does not have detailed Mythological knowledge & you are trying to make him a sanskrit scholar….. Very funny…..

    And Vyas himself is saying that Bhima had conquered karna at rajsuya yagna & some 6 to 7 times in MB war, but still Niraj must be thinking in his mind to catch Vyas’s collar & to beat him for writing the true facts of MB…..

    And buddy, if you dont know the meaning of Rajsuya Yagya & if you think that Pandavas successfully performed the Rajsuya Yagya without subjugating Karna(Ang-desh) then god help your Understanding/logic…… So Niraj bhai can you explain me your logic for this fake claim of yours that Bhima did not subjugate Karna ?????

  9. sachin,

    did Karna fire Bhargavastra at Bhima and Dhristtadyumna?

    if yes then what did they do?

    fled away or stood there.

    if they fled away than why?

    reply with passages from KMG MB.

  10. two biggest mistake made by KMG , karna participation at Drupad and Bhimsen rajasuya.

    if Shihupala can fight with Karna at kurukshetra, if Arjuna can killed already dead kauravas than only under such circumstances KMG MB can be fully relied upon.

  11. Sachin, it has been a very long time, bt still your textual asthma still knows no cure
    1)- Yes… it is called as Running away, as you didnt even reply to me on this blog as well…..

    The Rock says – I did on this blog only, and make me remember whether we were having active debate

    2- Ha…ha….ha…..ha…. This is just like Nayan Mongia saying that I could not make many runs in International cricket because i was busy playing the county cricket….!! Nice excuse though ROcky….. I know why you are following the FB blog, because YAHAAN AAPKI DAAL NAHI GAL RAHI HAI….. Ha..ha…ha…ha… And this blog of Dhruv is the best blog of discussing any Mythology because here we have the maximum number of Scholars of VYas MB/Bhagavatam etc, while other blogs have people who only know about TV serials……
    The Rock- if u hv so much low self esteem that this comment if mine increases it, then I m happy to b at service.
    the people on that blog ate even more knowledgeable than us,. They also do not live in the world of kmg only

    .
    And let me tell u those are Arjun supporters who actually believe in supernatural. U can guess that uit is more difficult to debate with them than with u
    3- Ha…ha….ha…..ha…. You dodged my question again…. WHich means I won the arguement again…. Now you are not authorised to speak about this topic in future…… My full sympathies for you…..
    The Rock says- I dodged? U hv been dodging my post from beginning
    4-And i never claimed it was Arjun’s victory, because Bhills attack was not a proper war(but an act of dacoity) & Babruvahan war was an Illsuion created by Ulupi & involves supernatural events of Arjun getting alive from dead, hence invalid…..
    The Rock says-u r claiming that trained army man will not b able to fight untrained thieves to protect the wife of pm

    5– WHAAAAATTTTTTTT….. Do you smelllll that the Rock is lying here……!! I didnt see any such post of yours….

    The Rock says-the first post addresses to u after a long time is the post.
    I’ll not explained why u ran away at first

    My ans- Ha…ha….ha…..ha…. Ha…ha….ha…..ha…. Rocky’s funny logics at its best….. Karna karein to raasleeela, Arjun karein to character dheela….??

    To defend a surprise dacoity attack in household is more difficult because the defender is not at all prepared for this situation(& Arjun was sleeping at that time) while in a battlefield the defender are all ready equipped & ready for battles & there is no surprise element in the battlefield, as the commander expects his warriors to be in trouble…..
    The Rock says- prove from kmg that Arjun was sleeping at that time, and gundas are invading the house in broad daylight only

  12. @ Smarty,

    Your statement-”why we again and again have to post the same passages for sachin satisfaction. he understand English very well but he has made his mind no to accept all these.”

    My ans- Ha..ha..ha,.. This is a perfect example of Smarty saying – “ANGOOR KHATTE HAI”……

    If none of your posts make any sense then even if you post them 1000 times, still they wont prove your points…. So stop crying Smarty & give some valid logical supporting statements to prove your points…. Otherwise dont claim such baseless claims…..

    1. all post have been proven by us. your saying wont change anything.

      other arjuna supporter have run away from active debate , they are nowhere to be seen.

      becs they may support Arjuna, but they are not going bring themselves down to such level which makes them look like idiot.

      they are not going to debate at the cost of their personal pride . most people have that unlike you.

      you are the only one who is doing the IDIOT TALK SHOW. you can deny whole your life it wont change anything.

      now prove that karna lost to drupada.

      Then Duryodhana and Vikarna, Suvahu and Dirghalochana and Duhsasana becoming furious, began to shower their arrows upon the enemy. But the mighty bowman, Prishata’s son, invincible in battle, though very much pierced with the arrows of the enemy, instantly began, O Bharata,

      p. 292

      to afflict the hostile ranks with greater vigour. And careering over the field of battle like a fiery wheel, king Drupada with his arrows smote Duryodhana and Vikarna and even the mighty Karna and many other heroic princes and numberless warriors, and slaked their thirst for battle. Then all the citizens showered upon the Kurus various missiles like clouds showering rain-drops upon the earth. Young and old, they all rushed to battle, assailing the Kurus with vigour. The Kauravas, then, O Bharata, beholding the battle become frightful, broke and fled wailing towards the Pandavas.

      where it is mentioned Karna fled away from the battle?

  13. @ Niraj,

    Your statement-”killing one warrior on front of another warrior is non contextual as bheeshme killed sveta in front of pandavas karna killed ghatotkacha in full view.”

    My ans- EXACTLY….. Expecting Arjun to jump on to Karna as soon as he fired his Bhargavastra, is non-contextual & childish…. because it was a serious war, not a non-contextual Circus….
    You yourself refuted your own non-contextual claim here….. Thanks…. I rest my case….

    Your statement-”the worthless sons of dhritharashtra protecting karna as if these guys were the greatest protector is of great importance to you”

    My ans- You dont need to be a Maharathi to protect a Maharathi…. I hope you have seen this many times in Hindi movies where the Villain shoots a bullet at the Hero, who’s life is saved by a weak supporting actor who puts his body in the line of bullet to tak the Gun shot on to his body….. Similary, Kuru brothers kept Bhima busy for sufficient time to help Karna recover from his thrashing……

    Your statement-”sri krishna who is universally acknowledge by everybody including arjuna and him protecting arjuna does not seem to register with you.”

    My ans- Supernatural claim…. Krishna cheating Pandavas & helping Duryo(by giving his Narayani sena) is universally acknowledge by everybody but it does not seem to register with you…..

    And Niraj, even if you post those pasages 1000 times which showed Karna not using celestial weapons on BHima, still it wont change the fact that Karna got thrashed by BHima some 6 to 7 times throughout MB …. Because a DEFEAT IS A DEFEAT…. Have you ever seen a Batsman saying- “O.. I could not make a century in this match because i was not using my favourite Bat”… Then whole world will be laughing at him…. Same thing is claimed by you…..

    And your above claim itself gets rubbished by the fact that Karna used his 2nd best weapon-Bhargavastra at Bhima/Dristdyumna only….. So Stop giving a EXCUSES…..

    Your statement-”he is a sanskrit scholar. he does not liked to be named any where he has read the mb in sanskrit and has assured me that their is no such shloka which prooves that karna was conquered by bhima at rajsuya yagna”

    My ans- Ha..ha….ha… Do you think we are fools Niraj, that we will buy your fake theories…. Give some authentic references to prove your points rather than giving references from an INVISIBLE self Proclaimed scholar…..

    1. Sachins quote : My ans- EXACTLY….. Expecting Arjun to jump on to Karna as soon as he fired his Bhargavastra, is non-contextual & childish…. because it was a serious war, not a non-contextual Circus….
      My ans : a stupid comparison. A warrior being killed in front of another and that warrior watching and then staying in the battle is one thing and warrior watching anothere warriors powerful weapon and running away from the battle is another thing. Please dont mix the issues. I have told dhruv to post karna vs bhima battles and karna owning bhima will autmatically be proven as far the sanskrit scholar was concerned that was in reply to smarboy because even if bhima also tells sachin that no sachin I had not conquered karna at rajsuya yagna still sachin will catch bhimas collar and start arguing with him.

  14. niraj bhai who translated the sholkas of Abhimanyu bow cutting incident for you?

    most importantly why Karna participated at Draupadi swaymavar , when it was clearly mentioned Swayamvara was strictly meant for Khstriyas only.

    during Chitrangada Swayamvara Karna didn’t participate.

    this is giving more weight to the story that Karna wanted to win Draupadi for Duryodhana.

    1. he is a sanskrit scholar. he does not liked to be named any where he has read the mb in sanskrit and has assured me that their is no such shloka which prooves that karna was conquered by bhima at rajsuya yagna

  15. Even Karna worshiped Krishna. And this what he had to say.

    Karna worshipped Krishna, the slayer of Madhu, and said these words,
    p. 276
    [paragraph continues] ‘Knowing (everything), why dost thou yet, O thou of mighty arms, seek to beguile me? The destruction of the whole earth that is at hand for its cause, Sakuni, and myself, and Dussasana, and king Duryodhana, the son of Dhritarashtra. Without doubt, O Krishna, a great and fierce battle is at hand between the Pandavas and the Kurus which will cover the earth with bloody mire. All the kings and princes following the lead of Duryodhana, consumed by the fire of weapons will proceed to the abode of Yama. Diverse frightful visions are seen, O slayer of Madhu, and many terrible portents, and fierce disturbances also. All these omens, making the hairs (of the spectators) stand on their ends, indicate, O thou of Vrishni’s race, THE DEFEAT OF DHRITARASHTRA’S SON AND THE VICTORY OF YUDHISHTHIRA.

    Krishna said,
    The triumphal banner of Pandu’s son, WITH THE FIERCE APE ON IT, seems to be already set up.

    O Krishna, have been chosen as the great antagonist of Arjuna to advance against him in a single combat. For the sake of death, or the ties of blood, or fear, or temptation, I cannot venture, O Janardana, to behave falsely towards the intelligent son of Dhritarashtra. If I do not now engage in a single combat with Arjuna, this will, O Hrishikesa, be inglorious for both myself and Partha. Without doubt, O slayer of Madhu, thou hast told me all this for doing me good. THE PANDAVAS ALSO, OBEDIENT AS THEY ARE TO THEE, WILL, WITHOUT DOUBT, DO ALL THAT THOU HAST SAID.

    THOU MUST, HOWEVER, CONCEAL THIS OUR DISCOURSE FOR THE PRESENT, O SLAYER OF MADHU. THEREIN LIES OUR BENEFIT, I THINK, O DELIGHTER OF ALL THE YADAVAS. IF KING YUDHISHTHIRA, OF VIRTUOUS SOUL AND WELL-CONTROLLED SENSES, COMETH TO KNOW ME AS THE FIRSTBORN SON OF KUNTI, HE WILL NEVER ACCEPT THE KINGDOM. IF, AGAIN, O SLAYER OF MADHU, THIS MIGHTY AND SWELLING EMPIRE BECOMETH MINE. I SHALL, O REPRESSOR OF FOES, CERTAINLY MAKE IT OVER TO DURYODHANA ONLY. LET YUDHISHTHIRA OF VIRTUOUS SOUL BECOME KING FOR EVER. HE THAT HATH HRISHIKESA FOR HIS GUIDE, AND DHANANJAYA AND THAT MIGHTY CAR-WARRIOR BHIMA FOR HIS COMBATANTS, AS ALSO NAKULA AND SAHADEVA, AND THE SONS OF DRAUPADI, IS FIT, O MADHAVA, TO RULE OVER THE WHOLE EARTH

    FOR THOSE HARSH WORDS, O KRISHNA, THAT I SAID BEFORE UNTO THE SONS OF PANDU FOR THE GRATIFICATION OF DHRITARASHTRA’S SON,–FOR THAT WICKED CONDUCT OF MINE,–I AM CONSUMED WITH REPENTANCE. WHEN O KRISHNA, THOU WILT BEHOLD ME SLAIN BY ARJUNA, THEN WILL THE PUNACHITI OF THIS SACRIFICE COMMENCE.

  16. why we again and again have to post the same passages for sachin satisfaction.

    he understand English very well but he has made his mind no to accept all these.

    the same passages have been posted by me at Karna vs Arjuna blog on Facebook , they deleted my post and blocked me.

    when we post the same passages here , guys like Gaurav Kotian and many never visited the blog.

    that means what ,they are accepting those facts but cannot digest and hence avoiding.

    but here Sachin has made his mind to deny all the things.

    we cant wake up a person who is acting of sleeping.

  17. @ Niraj,

    Your statement-”karna had promised kunti he wont kill that wretch bhima. arjuna had promised he will kill karna. so you point is non contextual”

    My ans- Bhima first spared the life of Karna on day 14(because of Arjun’s vow), otherwise Karna wouldnt have got any chance to think about Kunti’s promise & fact of the matter is that Karna was never in a position to kill Bhima(even on 14th day)…..

    Your statement-”Arjuna did not say drishtadyumna can take care of karna. his reaction was similiar to the victorious pehelwaans reaction when he saw salman khan taking off his shirt in title song of the movie dabangg”

    My ans- Your vague claims are non-contextual here because as i already showed you previously Arjun left the field to see Yudi & he did not leave the field because of Bhargavastra….. So stop beating same punctured drums of yours……

    Your statement-”Ample evidences have been shown karna mopping the floor with bhima.”

    My ans- Utter lie…. Truth is that Ample examples of Bhima tharshing Karna has been given in Vyas MB…..

    Your statement-”if karna had foght with divyastras it would have been RIP bhima.”

    My ans- Utter lie again……. Karna fired most of his celestial weapons on 17th day against Pandava army including Bhima….. Karna fired his Bhargavastra while fighting with Bhima/Dristsyumna only…. But Bhima did not RIP…… On the contrary, Bhima thrashed Karna on 17th day as well….So stop crying your false EXCUSES of Karna not using his celestial weapons on Bhima…..

    Your statement-”In any case finally its karna who prevailed with bhima with a begging bowl in his hands and please drop you weapons application.”

    My ans- Lie again… On 14th day, it was Karna who ran away from BHima in final round, hence victory for Bhima……

    Your statement-”when karna was mopping the floor with bhima no kuru brothers were there infact it was bhima who was protected with his group of warriors.”

    My ans- You missed one important point here…. Bhima did not run away from Karna in final round & he didnt ask for help from other Pandavs warrior & he was ready for further fight with Karna but Karna sensing the killer intention of Bhima, ran away…. SO it proves defeat for Karna only….

    1. I have quoted passages of karna not firing divastra yet again. bhima did have the upperhand initially but then karna prevailed. karna did not run away its arjuna who saw bhimas nanga bhikhari status and intervened.

      1. killing one warrior on front of another warrior is non contextual as bheeshme killed sveta in front of pandavas karna killed ghatotkacha in full view. why didnt arjuna kill karna there and then. perhaps he had taken a pledge that he will kill karna only when his chariot wheel is sunk. the worthless sons of dhritharashtra protecting karna as if these guys were the greatest protector is of great importance to you but sri krishna who is universally acknowledge by everybody including arjuna and him protecting arjuna does not seem to register with you.

  18. @ Smarty,

    Your statement-”if all these are false than tell me , why there is not a single text where karna fired the same weapons that he fired at arjuna. he fought for 7 days , not even single time he felt like using those weapons on bhimsen or others.”

    My ans- Dont talk in air Smarty…. Karna most all of his celestial weapons on 17th day against Pandava army including Bhima….. Karna fired his Bhargavastra while fighting with Bhima only…. But still Bhima thrashed Karna on 17th day as well….So stop crying your false EXCUSES of Karna not using his celestial weapons on Bhima…..

    It is so funny to note that inspite of Karna firing his celestial weapons at Bhima & still getting thrashed by Bhima…. still you are making a mockery of yourself by claiming that Karna fought lightly with Bhima…..

    And FYI, Bhima first spared the life of Karna on day 14, otherwise Karna wouldnt have got any chance to think about Kunti’s promise & fact of the matter is that Karna was never in a position to kill Bhima(even on 14th day)…..

    And why couldnt Karna kill warriors like Drishtdyumna/Satyaki/Viraat/Drupad etc…??? Was Karna fighting mildly with them as well or had he promised their mothers as well ???? And this only shows the extent of cheating done by Karna towards Duryo….

    Karna had to use his best weapon Vasavi to kill a second line Pandavas warriro(Ghatotkach), this fact itself proves about the worthless figthing skills of Karna…… Had Karna not possessed the Vasavi then Ghatotkach would have killed Karna on 14th day only…..

    Your statement-”next point why karna’s identity was not revealed to pandavas . why his death was mandatory for the victory?”

    My ans- Non-contextual arguement…. DOes it mean that every warrior who got killed in MB war was a great warrior, just because Pandavas killed them to achieve the victory…..

    Your statement-”if a person who can become slave of an stubborn person just for the sake of some abandoned kingdom. knowing very well all those acts were sins which he himself admitted later , such personalty can easily be exploited by a Master Mind like Shri Krishna.duryodhana never admitted that he ever made any mistake.first Krishna made Karna weak second kunti came to karna asking for alms. what a shame. a mother is asking alms from his child.”

    My ans- Hypothetical argument….. DOes not prove anything….

    Your statement-”if Karna had succeeded in Killing Arjuna than other could have been killed just like abhimanyu.”

    My ans- Ha..ha…ha… Childish claim…. You mean to say that killing 4 Pandavas was a piece of cake ????? And suppose Karna had indeed killed Arjun on 17th day, then how do you think the remaining Kurus would have killed 4 Pandavas, no Bhishma/Drona were left & who would have made the Chakravhiew again ???? This argument is becoming more & more Childish…..

    Your statement-”Indraprastra was an independent Kingdom otherwise how can yudi conducted an rajasuya yagna.”

    My ans- FYI Yudi was Kuru king, so Indraprasth’s independence is non-cntextual here, as Bhishma was supposed to take care of Kuru kings….

    1. no sachin no such thing happened. karna mopped the floor with bhima on battle day 17. one incident bhima did render karna a temporary swoon but karna was not firing divine weapons at that time.

      1. Beholding Bhima coming towards him, Karna, otherwise called Vaikartana or Vrisha, filled with
        rage, struck him with shafts in the centre of the chest. And once more, Karna of immeasurable
        soul, covered him with a shower of arrows. Thus pierced by the Suta’s son, Bhima covered the
        former with winged arrows. And he once more pierced Karna with nine straight and keen shafts.
        Then Karna, with a number of arrows, cut in twain Bhima’s bow at the handle. And after cutting
        off his bow, he pierced him once again in the centre of the chest with a shaft of great
        keenness and capable of penetrating every kind of armour. Then Karna pierced him with five and
        twenty arrows,. His limbs mangled with those shafts, his eyes red with rage and the desire of
        revenge, the son of Pandu, insensate with wrath, and impelled by the desire of slaying the
        Suta’s son, fixed on his bow an excellent shaft of great impetuosity, capable of bearing a
        great strain, and competent to pierce the very mountains. Forcibly drawing the bow-string to
        his very ear, the son of the Wind-god, that great bowman, filled with wrath and desirous of
        making an end of Karna, sped that shaft. Thus sped by the mighty Bhima, that shaft, making a
        noise loud as that of the thunder, pierced through thunderbolt Karna in that battle, like the
        thunderbolt itself piercing through a mountain. Struck by Bhimasena, O perpetuator of Kuru’s
        race, the Suta’s son, that commander (of thy forces), sat down senseless on the terrace of his
        car. The ruler of the Madras then, beholding the Suta’s son deprived of his senses, bore that
        ornament of battle away on his car, from that fight. Then after Karna’s defeat, Bhimasena began
        to rout the vast Dhartarashtra host like Indra routing the danavas.’”
        (Here bhima renders karna senseless but karna was NOT FIRING DIVINE WEAPONS
        Arrows and shafts are mentioned.)